With another year of activity, and joy and effort ahead,
remember to say: "I am", whenever you can.
Externally consider always, inner consider never.
With love and positive wishes for your continued growth.
Friday, 31 December 2010
Mr. Gurdjieff: Thank you, and a Happy New Year.
Mr. Gurdjieff would make something at the table, a piece of bread with
a tasty delicacy, and he would place it directly into his student's mouth.
He was showing them that not only was he feeding their physical bodies,
he was also feeding their metaphysical bodies.
With all good wishes for the New Year.
Thursday, 30 December 2010
Mr. Gurdjieff: Material
If you have read the literature, it is very interesting that you
basically have someone from a peasant background, who ends
up a teacher to the major thinkers of the day, attracted the
smartest most intelligent writers, doctors, members of the
Russian Tzar's court, economists, thinkers like Ouspensky,
Orage, and yet, his students wrote of his humility and silence.
Mr. Gurdjieff: His achievement.
Mr. Gurdjieff had an enormous responsibility to
bring the ancient esoteric teaching from the east to the west.
Wednesday, 29 December 2010
George Gurdjieff Quotes
A "sin" is something which is not necessary.
George Gurdjieff
via brainyquote.com
He said that is sin is something that occurs when you know you have to do something, and you do not do it. Indicating shirking or avoiding, even mechanically, responsibility.
George Gurdjieff Quotes
A man is never the same for long. He is continually changing. He seldom remains the same even for half an hour.
George Gurdjieff
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It is starting to feel that it was probably a big part of Mr. Gurdjieff's upbringing to hear sayings, or encapsulations of wisdom, an age where books were less available, no internet, etc.
What he says is always powerful, simple and wise.
Tuesday, 28 December 2010
[gurdjiefffourthway] Re: Gurdjieff talk from Driscoll
The children were always allowed to buy things, but at one sale we proposed a task: buy only what remains unsold at the end of the day. This condition was accepted by the children but soon ignored. They engaged in a brisk clandestine trade of bargains from their various tables, for the boxed games priced at one dollar, the working toys, the more interesting junk. They reported later that a kind of fever had gripped them, particularly the younger ones, and they simply could not allow someone else to buy and take away the toys they coveted. They were able to glimpse what controlled them in that moment—and how a little bit of stuff could become their master. They discovered greed.
Rather than rejecting what is considered “bad,” Mr. Gurdjieff’s methods include using the contradictions of our many traits to understand ourselves more deeply and to acknowledge our inner reality as it is. This could lead to a contact with our deeply buried conscience and perhaps an eventual freedom from some of the myriad features of our inner slavery.
In reading this excerpt, the major stock markets came to mind, markets, garage sales, car boot sales, reports of scarcity, impending doom, shortages because of weather, snow, storms, blizzards, it would appear that this is strongly attached to our survival instinct.
[gurdjiefffourthway] Re: Gurdjieff talk from Driscoll
Money is the blood of society, Mr. Gurdjieff told us, and one of life’s driving forces. Neutral in itself, neither good nor evil, the power of money permeates our social and personal relationships, openly and in myriad guises, and this makes it an essential subject in our study of ourselves. The aim is to expose the subterranean layers of belief, of imagination, dreams and fantasy that give money its power over us.
What is the real measure of success in our lives?
Not perhaps how much you have, but how you handle what you have.
Programmed from society, your surroundings and attitudes of your parents,
it may take years to arrive at a right understanding of money in your life.
Monday, 27 December 2010
Gurdjieff talk from Driscoll
N otes of Talks by G. I. Gurdjieff
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Gurdjieff in his teaching always tried to make us understand that we must use it in our life-work. The struggle between ‘Yes’ and ‘No’ goes on endlessly. We are full of idle wishes—‘it wishes’—and to these we must oppose our ‘I’ wish. If this is done in the right way, a good result follows.
He gave as an example the following: ‘Suppose I very much need some
information, or something, from someone. But this someone has offended me. “It” does
not wish humbly to ask, and I shall have to struggle with my self-love and self-pride,
which would suffer in the case of refusal. If I persist in my struggle against the denying
part and overcome the inertia set up, and go to the person, something in me will be
strengthened and my understanding will have deepened. On the other hand, if I do not
go, though I shall have saved nervous energy and possible unpleasantness, my
understanding will not have increased.’
Later he spoke about initiation. ‘Initiation is usually regarded as an act by which
a man who knows transfers to another man knowledge and power, which become the latter’s inalienable possession with no effort on his part. This, of course, can never be. There is only self-initiation, which is acquired by constant effort. It is impossible to give to a man anything that could become his own without effort on his part. One can only show and direct, but not initiate. One can only give to a man just as much as he is ready to receive.
As I have said, Gurdjieff always followed up a talk on theory with practical work; and I,
with others, found myself being manoeuvred into situations in which I became
conscious of ‘Yes, here is something I ought to do’; ‘No’ from the body, a resistance
accompanied by all kinds of reasonable excuses to make myself not go on with the
struggle. When the effort was made, the neutralizing force came into play, and a feeling
of growing strength was experienced. Sometimes the effort was not made, with a
consequent feeling of weakness in the solar plexus.
While taking part in a certain dance based on what is called the’Enneagram’
something began to work in me, in my feelings; it was occasioned partly by the music, partly by the postures and movements. The music was a simple recurring melody and harmony, but arranged in such a way, and so beautifully, that it pierced the depths of one’s being. It was as if I were understanding something, becoming conscious,
partaking in a ritual. I sensed something of the meaning of the enneagram of the law of eternal recurrence, eternal repetition, and of the possibilities of a way out, and in time the enneagram became for me a living moving symbol that gave me a feeling of joy whenever I looked at it. I could learn something every time I pondered it.”
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Mr. Gurdjieff: The enneagram from Driscoll
N otes of Talks by G. I. Gurdjieff
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Symbolism and the Enneagram.
G. I. Gurd jieff
Variants of an Early Lecture Developed between 1915 and the 1920s
The first published account of Gurdjieff’s lecture on symbolism and the enneagram
takes the form of a synopsis, with paraphrases and quotes in C. S. Nott’s
takes the form of a synopsis, with paraphrases and quotes in C. S. Nott’s
“On several occasions Gurdjieff spoke about symbols and their use, among them the Enneagram, which contains among other things the working of the Law of Three, the Law of Seven, and the Law of Ninefoldness, the keys to which may be found in
Beelzebub’s Tales.
A great deal of material was put together in the form of ‘A Lecture on
Symbolism’. Briefly the idea is that every man has in him a desire for knowledge,
differing only in intensity, but the mind of a seeking man often comes up against a blank wall when he asks ‘Why?’—though usually the question is ‘How?’ not ‘Why?’ Man does not realize that under the surface of things is hidden the oneness of all that exists. Man has always sought this oneness in religions and philosophies, and has tried to define it in words—which become dead and empty. Words and ideas change according to time and place, but unity, oneness, is eternal and unchanging. Certain men of real
understanding, realizing the inadequacy of words, have, through the ages, constructed
symbols for the passing down of real knowledge. One who studies a symbol and arrives at an understanding of it, realizes that he has the symbol in himself. ‘Everything in the world is one and is governed by uniform laws.’ As in the Emerald Tablet of Hermes Trismegistus: ‘As above, so below.’ The laws of the cosmos may be found in the atom; but the nearest object for man to study is himself. In this respect the formula used by Socrates (though originating in Egypt), ‘Know thyself’, is full of meaning. By studying the laws of the universe man may see the working of the law in himself, and when he seriously struggles with his denying part, his negative part, he will be engaging in the struggle that goes on in the whole of the universe—‘the divine warfare’—and he will be constructing in himself the great symbol which issues from remote times and which we know as Solomon’s Seal. Solomon’s Seal is in every man who looks into himself’.
Bennett Books de Ropp
Check out this website I found at bennettbooks.org
I will add a link later about Bucke
Bennet Books Beryl Pogson
Beryl Pogson
Beryl Pogson (1895-1967) was a pupil of Dr. Maurice Nicoll for nineteen years and his secretary for fourteen years and was one of small group who lived with him and Mrs. Nicoll at the houses where The Work was carried on: Tyeponds, Birdlip, Quaremead and Great AmwellHouse.
Practical Work Teaching was always given. Beryl Pogson had a sense of urgency about The Work and an inner certainty of what she should do.
During the last ten years of her life she was taking as many as six Group meetings a week, and daily meetings during sessions at The Dicker, Sussex. These were quite informal lectures followed by questions, but quite often she would ask for a question at the beginning and a discussion would take its course from the question asked. She often made connections between The Work and sacred books, literature, plays and poetry as will be seen in these books. Her Work teaching was based on The Psychological Commentaries on the Teachings of G.I. Gurdjieff and P.D. Ouspensky by Maurice Nicoll, and of course, from G.I. Gurdjieff's and P.D. Ouspensky's own writings.
via bennettbooks.org
Sunday, 26 December 2010
Gurdjieff Heritage Society - Jessmin & Dushka Howarth Book
Jessmin & Dushka Howarth's Book..
"It's Up To Ourselves"
A MOTHER, A DAUGHTER, AND GURDJIEFF
A remarkable mother-daughter memoir and unique perspective on Gurdjieff's life and times, this long awaited book presents hundreds of photos, documents, and private letters. Colorfully portraying prominent people in the international community involved with the “Work” and its continuing development, the book offers unusual personal perspectives of Gurdjieff, the man, his family, and his teaching methods: Movements, music, writings, special dinner rituals, etc.
This 500 plus page hardcover book features an original painting by Alexandre de Salzmann based on the scenario of Gurdjieff's ballet, “The Struggle of the Magicians.”
Gurdjieff Work
"The moment when a man who is looking for the way meets a man who knows the way is called the first threshold or the first step. From this first threshold the stairway begins. Between 'life' and the 'way' lies the 'stairway.' Only by passing along the 'stairway' can a man enter the 'way.' In addition, the man ascends this stairway with the help of the man who is his guide; he cannot go up the stairway by himself. The way begins only where the stairway ends, that is, after the last threshold on the stairway, on a level much higher than the ordinary level of life."*
* Gurdjieff as quoted by Ouspensky In Search of the Miraculous, p201
via kesdjan.com
Mr. Gurdjieff: Christmas gift we just found.
Transcripts of meetings in Paris in the 1940's
Merry Christmas, don't forget to say: "I am"
A traveller's experience.
Pdf excerpt: http://www.ancienttraditions.org/index.php?module=documents&JAS_DocumentManager_op=downloadFile&JAS_File_id=21
Like many of you, my search for a teacher began shortly after becoming acquainted with P.D. Ouspensky’s book In Search of the Miraculous. I found a teacher of the Gurdjieff Method in Portland, Oregon, through a remarkable series of "coincidences" and close calls. Mrs. A.L. Staveley gave me permission to join the new group forming in September of 1973 when my boyfriend and I had hitchhiked to her doorstep with all our worldy belongings in our backpacks, without a clue as to where we would live or how we would earn our keep. I brought my youthful rebellion against my suffocating education and against all discipline that would constrain my raw, untamed potential. I immediately rebelled against "traditional" aspects of Gurdjieff’s Teachings, which at first triggered my touchy "feminist" side. Mrs. Staveley remained patient throughout, even managing to keep her sense of humor through most of my transgressions, and persisted in confronting me with the Teachings.
Slowly I began to apply the Teachings to my life, thereby gradually transforming it. These experiences enabled me to sort out the mess I was in from my social conditioning and to restore a degree of balance and self-respect. I devoted myself to the study of Beelzebub’s Tales to His Grandson, the cosmic laws, and the mysteries of the psyche of Man, whom Gurdjieff characterized as "psychopaths squared" and sometimes "cubed". I began to grasp what he meant by "Reason of Knowing" versus "Reason of Understanding" and to ferret out the enneagramatic structure of these two distinct forms of mentation. I spent more time engaged in the activities and pursuits of the community than I did with my own family. I was in training as a group facilitator, a Movements demonstrator, and was being primed for a part in the community leadership.
During my entire time in the community I privately maintained that Gurdjieff was my true Teacher and ultimate authority, rather than Mrs. Staveley, because Gurdjieff taught that we should be "indifferent to the saints". I say "privately" because nearly everyone else appeared to worship the ground Mrs. Staveley walked upon, allowing her to dictate to them how to live their lives down to the minutest detail. Instead, my instinct guided me to reserve the right to make my own "miss-takes" and learn thereby, just as I’d had to do with my mother, sharing with Mrs. Staveley the results of my efforts to apply the Teachings and principles she suggested. I came into this world with a questioning mind and I subjected everything to critical review, taking to heart Gurdjieff’s warning to VERIFY EVERYTHING FOR MYSELF. Whenever I questioned something Mrs. Staveley said or did, I consulted the writings of Gurdjieff and came to my own working hypotheses of how to apply the teachings. Most of the time I’d finally come around to what Mrs. Staveley had been trying to show me all along – but not always. In this way I used Gurdjieff’s writings as my COMPASS for all and everything, not literally as my "ALL AND EVERYTHING". I did not dare to express this view aloud!
Saturday, 25 December 2010
Mr Gurdjieff recorded christmas 1948 Music Video with Lyrics
via metrolyrics.com
I wish you all a wonderful christmas experience to treasure.
Don't forget to say: "I am".
[gurdjiefffourthway] Re: Mr. Gurdjieff: Zuber "Who are you Monsieur Gurdjieff?"
The Spirit of Christmas and the Teaching of Gurdjieff
“Only-he-will-be-called-and-will-become-the-Son-of-God-who-acquires-in-himself-Conscience.”Beelzebub’s Tales to His Grandson, p.368
Now that the spirit of Christmas is approaching, it is appropriate to mentate on the deep meaning of this event. The Son of God is born! The Son of God is born of a Virgin. Only if I am Virgin can the Son of God be born in me. How am I Virgin? When I am without images I am Virgin. Only in whom who is without images the Son of God is born. What is Virgin, that has not been touched and contaminated, is the subconsciousness. The Son of God is born in the subconsciousness. So the real question is: How to do or not to do in order that the subconsciousness participates in our everyday life? That is the question. In the subconsciousness is stored the data necessary for engendering in us the “Divine impulse of genuine objective conscience.” Participation of this Divine impulse in our everyday ordinary life is now the only way that can bring us back to normality. This is the central message of Ashiata Shiemash and the very essence of the teaching of Gurdjieff, as I now understand it. Merry Christmas to all!http://www.gurdjieff-internet.com/article_details.php?ID=273&W=21
Friday, 24 December 2010
[gurdjiefffourthway] Re: Mr. Gurdjieff: Zuber "Who are you Monsieur Gurdjieff?"
Mr Gurdjieff hung his Christmas tree upside down
Thursday, 23 December 2010
Ouspensky vignettes
Check out this website I found at ouspensky.org.uk
Yellowish-grey sand. Deep blue sky. In the distance the triangle of the Pyramid of Kephren, and just before me this strange, great face with its gaze directed into the distance...I felt that...if I could stay under its gaze from birth to death, the whole of my life would flash by so swiftly for it that it could not notice me. The glance was fixed on something else. It was the glance of a being who thinks in centuries and milleniums. I did not and could not exist for it. And I could not answer my own question - do I exist for myself."
Ouspensky on Gurdjieff
"Suddenly he (Ouspensky) appeared at the table, showing an emotion that was very unusual for him, and without pausing for a formal 'Good morning' or even stopping to sit down he said, 'I think this time we've really found what we need! I must tell you all about it. I have found the Miracle!'
With Gurdjieff in
St. Petersburg and Paris
Anna Butkovsky-Hewitt
via ouspensky.org.uk
People make too much of the split with Gurdjieff, it was neccessary for Ouspensky to grow and make the system his own.
Wednesday, 22 December 2010
Gurdjieff Internet Guide
10 latest added books.
Baraka
Amazon.co.uk Review
Ron Fricke, the cinematographer on the trippy Koyaanisqatsi, made this similarly impressionistic, dialogue-free photo exhibition come to life. Shot in 24 countries and at all sorts ...
The Three Dangerous Magi: Osho, Gurdjieff, Crowley
Review
A fascinating book about three hugely intriguing, larger-than-life, spiritual rascals. (Timothy Freke, author of The Jesus Mysteries and How Long Is Now?) P.T. Mistlberger has personal experiential ...
Stille Nacht, Heilige Nacht - Der innere Weg nach Bethlehem
Weihnachten, die stille und heilige Nacht. Die Weih-nachtsgeschichte – wir alle tragen die Worte oder Pas-sagen daraus in uns. Doch was hat es wirklich mit dem Bild von «Weihnachten und der Geburt Jesu» ...
The Art of Living - A Talk Followed by Questions
Recorded at Esalen Institute, Big Sur, 1981; Fourth publication in the series: Introducing the Ideas of G.I. Gurdjieff; 20 page booklet
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Music by Gurdjieff- de Hartmann, Volume 3
Single CD featuring 26 of the Gurdjieff-De Hartmann pieces for piano played by Laurence Rosenthal, over 71 minutes playing time.
Comments
Includes: "Rejoice Beelzebub", Fall of the Priestess, Long ...
Natural Birth: A Holistic Guide to Pregnancy, Childbirth, and Breastfeeding
In our society childbirth is often viewed as something to be feared and even to be avoided, through elective caesarian or extreme pain suppression. In this uplifting book Kristina Turner applies esoteric ...
Daddy Gurdjieff (English Translation)
Translated by Paul Beekman Taylor, who writes in his introduction:
Besides James Moore's magistral biography of Gurdjieff published in 1991, there are but scattered and brief sketches of Gurdjieff, ...
A Gymnasium of Beliefs in Higher Intelligence
Comments
This book follows on in the series Anthony Blake has produced exploring the ramifications of fourth way ideas in the context of the rapidly expanding and ever more complex world we live in. ...
Index and Study Guide for Beelzebub's Tales to His Grandson by G.I. Gurdjieff
Description
Compiled by Willem Nyland and his groups; Not to be confused with the Traditional Studies Press 'Guide and Index', this one differs first by being especially reflective of Mr Nyland's perspective ...
The Forgotten Language of Children
This experiment in living intentionally is the first book that shows George Gurdjieff's unique method for raising children with integrity, courage and independence. Part memoir, part vivid accounts told ...
some more links for you
Tuesday, 21 December 2010
Mr. Gurdjieff: Zuber
René Zuber (1980). Who Are You Monsieur Gurdjieff? Routledge & Kegan Paul.
I was first taken to Mr Gurdjieff's flat at a time very different from the present. Paris during the war, under German occupation, was in the grip of the ...
I will have to get this book again.
The story about Mr. Gurdjieff counting his money comes to mind,
been a while since I read this.
Monday, 20 December 2010
MUSIC BY GURDJIEFF- DE HARTMANN, VOLUME 3. , Laurence Rosenthal - By The Way Books - Books on Gurdjieff and The Fourth Way
MUSIC BY GURDJIEFF- DE HARTMANN, VOLUME 3.
Rosenthal, Laurence.
Price: $22.00
Date Published: 2010
Book Id: 13754
Description
Single CD featuring 26 of the Gurdjieff-De Hartmann pieces for piano played by Laurence Rosenthal, over 71 minutes playing time.
Comments
Includes: "Rejoice Beelzebub", Fall of the Priestess, Long Ago in Mikhailov, Song of the Molokans, Prayer and Despair, Tibi Cantamus No. 1, Return from a Journey, Fontainbleau and others.
By This Author: Rosenthal, Laurence.
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Sunday, 19 December 2010
Mr. Gurdjieff: Rene Zuber excerpt.
"This is indeed the first and indispensable quality needed to approach Gurdjieff: innocence - the innocence of the little boy who exclaims as the procession passes by, "the Emperor has no clothes!" It exists at any age. This little patch of childhood that remains intact in spite of all the ills of life, in spite of "education", is pure gold, the trace of gold without wihich, as alchemists know, no gold can be made." René Zuber "Who are you Mr. Gurdjieff"
[gurdjiefffourthway] Re: Mr. Gurdjieff: Conscious Love
Just found this Facebook page:
"A master meets you for the sole purpose of showing you the direction, the way to the inner master which is called conscience. He helps you to discover that you are already its subject, but that you were not aware of it.
And the he disappears. He melts into the sky as the mountain does the moment you belive you have set foot on it.”What an extraordinary and moving description of what a master is!
And the he disappears. He melts into the sky as the mountain does the moment you belive you have set foot on it.”What an extraordinary and moving description of what a master is!
This person appears to have a sincere place in the fourth way work of Mr. Gurdjieff
Saturday, 18 December 2010
Some Testimony
Check out this website I found at gurdjieff.org.uk
Some Testimony
Home
Who was Gurdjieff?
What did he teach?
Some Testimony
Gurdjieff's Music
Dances and Movements
The Man and the Literature
Chronology of Gurdjieff's Life
Contact Us
Books
James Moore's Memoir
Links to Related Sites
Gurdjieff is the most immediate, the most valid and the most totally representative figure of our times.
Peter Brook
It seems to me fundamental to remember that Gurdjieff was a passionate being. He was a kind of volcano.
Jerzy Grotowski
Work done with George Balanchine since 1933 . . . was determined by what I gained from Gurdjieff's notions of conscious behaviour and physical possibility.
Lincoln Kirstein
Gurdjieff was a thoroughly enigmatic figure, a cross between the Gnostics of old and latter day Dadaists . . . He was human to the core.
Henry Miller
Dances and Movements
Check out this website I found at gurdjieff.org.uk
Manifestly Gurdjieff is not in debt to classical ballet, nor to any Western schools of dance, eurythmics or movement. The reverse possibility - of Gurdjieff's (unintentional) influence on modern ballet - cannot be dismissed so easily. Diaghilev pressed Gurdjieff, unavailingly, to include the Sacred Dances as a novelty item in one of his Ballets Russes seasons. Lincoln Edward Kirstein, founder (1934) and director (1940) of the prestigious School of American Ballet, was a Prieuré pupil from 1927, and apropos his work with George Balanchine, outspokenly acknowledged Gurdjieff's sovereign influence (in dedicating his book Nijinsky Dancing, Kirstein writes: 'As in everything I do, whatever is valid springs from the person and ideas of G. I. Gurdjieff.
http://www.gurdjieff.org.uk/gs7.htm
Friday, 17 December 2010
Mr. Gurdjieff: Making jam
Mr Gurdjieff, (in response to a question)
"It is very simple. Look at this.
(He takes a section of tangerine from a plate).
This is destined to become jam, it has to become jam,
it was made for that. But it is full of salt. What should be done?
It must be washed, soaked, cleaned to remove the salt.
Afterwards it can become jam. With the salt it is impossible.
Remorse is that which removes the salt. This is what purifies, you understand.
Transcripts of Gurdjieff's meetings 1941-1946
Thursday, 16 December 2010
John Bennett: Initiation
John Bennett wrote once that he
believed that Mr. Gurdjieff received
his initiation into the work in a
monastery in Mongolia, where the
methods used were very brutal.
Mr. Gurdjieff: Be a man
Mr. Gurdjieff observed once that
Dr. Nicholl has become lost in something
he was doing, he remarked to him:
"You know, is necessary, be man"
Wednesday, 15 December 2010
Mr. Gurdjieff: Change
Each person is different.
Mr. Gurdjieff would give his students
individual exercises for them to struggle with.
Short periods, then review, and adjust.
Slow change.
Mr. Gurdjieff: Acting
Mr. Gurdjieff spoke about the necessity to be
able to play a role in life.
"It is necessary to be an actor, but at present,
all are actors"
Tuesday, 14 December 2010
Talk by Gurdjieff, Prieure 1923 - Hip Forums
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http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?s=aa5568f7324a89e84b14dddcd...
A selection from a talk by Mr. Gurdjieff
Monday, 13 December 2010
Mr. Gurdjieff
Mr. Gurdjieff said:
For a long time, you make efforts and you see nothing.
Then suddenly.............it all comes together.
(Paraphrased)
Mr. Gurdjieff: Efforts
In on of the audio recordings of Mr. Gurdjieff,
his students are explaining the wire recording device
to him, and that there is even a tape which is better quality.
Now we have Cd's, Dvd's, mp3's, phones, camera phones,
mp3 players, usb, pc, Wii, Ipod, Ipad, all this happened since
that recording only sixty or so years ago.
The circumstances necessary to develop consciousness have definitely
changed. Once could ask, where is the gain?
Mr. Gurdjieff: To do
Mr. Gurdjieff: "To do, it is neccessary to be"
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Sunday, 12 December 2010
Home Page
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Again, we do not know this group directly use at own risk.
We are wondering if this is Jame's Moore's group?
His book on Gurdjieff is one of th best biographies of this
mysterious man.
Gurdjieff/4th Way Group Introductory Meeting This Coming Week - new york groups
Unknown to us, use at own risk.
Ever wondered just what the 4th Way 'work' really is or what it entails??
Have you been in a 4th Way group, but find yourself needing a more practical approach to Gurdjieff's ideas??
You've read the books, heard the 1st hand accounts, might know someone in the 'work'.......but does that help YOU to 'work' more effectively & practically???!!
We would like to cordially invite you to a series of FREE local meetings regarding the 4th Way/Gurdjieff teachings. These introductory talks will focus on the principles of G.I. Gurdjieff or what is commonly known as the "The 4th Way Work".
The aim of this group is to give folks a deep lasting impression of the methods, practical 'simple' exercises & most importantly, preparation on how to recognize when one has found the right group or group leader.
This group is NOT officially affiliated with the Gurdjieff Foundation. We are an introductory group which serves to prepare SERIOUS seekers for group Work in the Foundation, of which the leader of this group is officially an active member.
http://newyork.backpage.com/Groups/gurdjieff4th-way-group-introductory-meetin...
Saturday, 11 December 2010
Mr. Gurdjieff: Efforts
He said if you make real efforts,
sweat would run down your heels.
Our body does not like it when we go against it.
He said this was work against God, meaning,
we who are even able to make efforts, are very few.
Work efforts that is.
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Mr. Gurdjieff: Judgement
When asked who he was,
Mr. Gurdjieff replied:
"Me? I man"
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Friday, 10 December 2010
Gurdjieff International Review
Check out this website I found at ouspensky.org
In Paris there was a restaurant Gurdjieff often went to because he liked the crawfish they served there, which was called ecrevisse. One evening, during the period in which he was writing All and Everything, Gurdjieff and some of his people went there for dinner. However, on this occasion Gurdjieff did not order ecrevisse as he invariably did. Someone in the party made a remark about this. Gurdjieff acknowledged the remark and went on to say, “I did not write as much as I should have today, so tonight I will not have ecrevisse. Tonight I will eat something else.”
For Dr. William J. Welch
Check out this website I found at gurdjieff.org
It feels it is possible to discern the vibration of a true student, even throught the writings about this man.
Mr. Gurdjieff's magic alchemy at work.
What he couldn’t calculate, and had no need to, was the impact on himself and on those around him of his questioning. It probably remade him over the years. Simply by questioning and by attending to the answers that came of themselves or emerged in the course of unblinking inquiry, he became a wise man and a spiritual man. But there was something more: his feeling for people. It must have guided him into medicine in the first place; it certainly grew with the years as he looked after many thousands of patients. Dr. Welch had a capacity for unfeigned, immediate compassion: one experienced it at once when speaking with him of any real difficulty, be it medical or personal. He often railed at human self-preoccupation and described us, as Gurdjieff did, as lamentably unavailable to one another. This was somehow scoured out of him; perhaps his awareness of it was enough gradually to evict it. He had the rare attribute of welcoming people to be their best, didn’t invisibly compete. He was there for others, so fully that he almost shone with love at times. But some factor, perhaps good taste, certainly good sense, allowed him to feel much without becoming sentimental.
Gurdjieff. The great inflector of Dr. Welch’s life, the one who implicitly challenged him to be not just a superb doctor—already no small thing—but to explore human experience with wrenching honesty. Gurdjieff was the teacher whom he met in New York in the 1930s and loved ever after with the awe and delight of a son toward a difficult but astonishing father. It was this man, whom we can safely regard as a Western Zen master, who redefined for Dr. Welch—and many others of his generation—the full meaning of humanness and the possible scope of experience. Gurdjieff’s example and influence, falling on many different souls, bore fruit in many different ways. In Dr. Welch, is it saying too much, or saying falsely, to remember his enormous humanity, outsized really: more than one could hope for. Gurdjieff did not lead him to the heaven of the mystics—Dr. Welch thought earth to be heaven enough for now, if properly perceived and lived—but Gurdjieff did contribute in ways that can never be fully known to the emergence of rich humanity in his spiritual son. Gurdjieff said, if you work for your life you also work for your death. Dr. Welch worked for his life, and the lives of others.
Dr. Welch was born on September 12, 1911, in Eau Claire, Wisconsin—a town he
Thursday, 9 December 2010
Gurdjieff.PDF (application/pdf Object)
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via kheper.net
Essay on Gurdjieff, the enneagram and the fourth way,
the ancient tradition.
Gurdjieff: Teacher of Radical Transformation
via youtube.com
We thought this was quite wonderful. Very clean speaker.
The little girl running around Mr. Gurdjieff at around 7 mins, does not realize
it, she is perhaps too young, but she is running a circle around Mr. Gurdjieff's
powerful, concentrated, energy field. No film can ever catch this completely,
when eventually, you are lucky enough to experience this in a more developed person, you will understand. This short footage is a great gift.
Understanding comes later.
The "Forest Philosophers"
he Gurdjieff 'Institute' at Fontainebleau has lately been described at considerable length by a correspondent of the Daily News; but his description conveys almost nothing of the real work that is being done there, even on its purely physical side. The life is very simple and uncomfortable, the food is adequate but too starchy for an ordinary stomach, the work is extremely hard. The physical work, indeed, results often in a degree of exhaustion which perhaps exceeds anything that was produced even by a prolonged spell in the winter trenches of Flanders in 1917. Yet behind it all there is no theory either of asceticism or of the 'simple life'. Abstinence is not praised, physical work is not idealized or exalted. Work at Fontainebleau is a medicine and a curse. Carried to extremes it creates increased capacity for effort and provides rich material for self-study—no more than that. Cold, hunger and physical exhaustion are things to be endured not for their own sake, nor to acquire 'merit' of any description, but simply for the sake of understanding the physical mechanism, making the most of it, and ultimately of bringing it into subjection. Other conditions provided at the 'Institute'—with an ingenuity that is almost diabolical—offer similar opportunities for the study of the emotional mechanism, but that side of the work cannot be described in a few words or sentences, and must here be passed over.
via gurdjieff.org
This connects to the previous post.
Extraordinary also, is that Mr. Gurdjieff, was working in a time of war, revolution, depression, the great cycles that humanity is subject to.
He worked with the intelligensia of Europe, and he had to work fast.
One of the great pivotol roles of the twentieth century.
The "Forest Philosophers"
The psychological aspect of the Gurdjieff-Ouspensky teaching might be briefly described as the practical, detailed and infinitely painstaking application of the ancient precept: Know thyself. All the teaching is strictly practical. Only enough theory indeed is given to provide a language in which the results of self-study can be recorded and mutually related. The student may, if he likes, believe all he is told, but he is always reminded that belief is not knowledge, and can be of no value to him until he has verified it by direct self-observation; and he is continuously discouraged from discussing ideas, or even using words, of which he cannot offer concrete illustrations drawn from his own experience. The system thus contains its own test. As taught by Mr. Ouspensky, psychology is less a science than an art—the art of self-study.
via gurdjieff.org
http://www.gurdjieff.org/sharpe.htm
The work does not have to be too physically extreme, a lot depends on the teacher, how he imparts his knowledge.
Gurdjieff knew his place in history, perhaps never before had a fourth way teacher appeared so publicly. We are saying this in view of the fact that he appears in the age of newspapers, and radio, and film. One of the first enlightened beings ever to be filmed. He went beyond theory.
Wednesday, 8 December 2010
Mr. Gurdjieff: Judgement
Mr Gurdjieff said:
"Always look at all sides, before make judgement"
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Tuesday, 7 December 2010
Gurdjieff Heritage Society Book Excerpts
References to “The Fourth Way,” “The Enneagram,” “Harmonious Development,” and so forth, appear everywhere nowadays and the name of G. I. Gurdjieff, the man who originally introduced most of these concepts to the West in the early 1900s, is often used as a commercial attention grabber.
The 1985 publication of Gurdjieff: An Annotated Bibliography, a 363-page volume, drove this home to many of us. Identifying and briefly summarizing the existing books and articles about this philosopher and writer, who had died in 1949 almost completely unknown except to a small coterie of pupils and admirers, it lists the astonishing number of one thousand seven hundred and forty- three publications (in English and French) And every year the list increases.
Unfortunately, of the now almost three thousand publications about Gurdjieff and his work presently available, one can with discrimination and a clear conscience recommend only a very small percentage to the serious reader. Most of them are inept, misguided or, worse, sometimes really destructive. The saleability of the Gurdjieff name has resulted in an avalanche of spurious imitations. Hundreds of writings and public presentations are offered nowadays by people who never knew the man himself or had direct experience of his teaching. However they realize that by using his name they increase credibility and sales for their own work.
Seems like this group or society is making a valuable contribution
Monday, 6 December 2010
Sunday, 5 December 2010
Mr. Gurdjieff: Inner world offerings
Gurdjieff was unlike other men. Those who recorded their impressions of his person have left a strikingly consistent composite document. The late Henri Tracol, one of the foremost exponents of the Gurdjieff teaching and a man with a keen sense for the well-chosen word, remembered:
http://www.gurdjieff.org/lipsey1.htm… his massive presence, the serene power, at once formidable and reassuring, which emanated from his whole being—his bearing, his gestures, his manner. I can still hear his voice resounding in me, arousing echoes that are ever fresh and new. Above all, I find myself standing before him, his eyes in mine, confronting the exacting benevolence of his gaze. Exacting, yes, and at times fiery and merciless. He seemed to guess the best as well as the worst in us and, being an expert in such matters, he smiled. That smile was ironic and compassionate, but quite without indulgence. Nothing escaped him. We felt him always ready to act without pity toward the oppressors of our own selves which, without knowing it, we were. This can be truly called: love.5
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